I can be a very weird guy… This is one of the reasons why. I can be very feminine at times, and very masculine at others. Here’s my experience with dating men, years after reading lots of RP material.
So… A while ago I was exploring the other side of my sexuality.
According to pop-science on personality types, I’m the most inclined to experiment with my own sex. Looking at my same type friends, this is absolutely correct. Also, all women that I was very attracted to and vice versa were bisexual. The more bisexual the woman in question (turned out to be), the more attracted to her I was. Probably correlation with open and bold sexuality.
I’m being tangential again, sorry. I’ve been to a few dates with bi/gay guys. As I was uncomfortable doing that, I’ve noticed a few similarities between shyly experimenting with same sex and how unconfident women likely feel on dates with guys.
I was never initiating anything that could be perceived remotely sexual by the other party. I felt like a 14 y/o school girl on her first date with a 17 y/o dude who just wants to fuck her.
The first guy was pretty open and chill the first time I’ve met him, seemed to be interested in me, I only found out he was bisexual somewhere during the convo. He was very chill, which made me want to try to go on a date (worst case nothing happens).
On the date though he was super needy and somewhat sleazy, so I didn’t meet him again.
The other guy was much better, he was purely gay – very into fashion, exotic features. I met him a few times and was more and more comfortable, but if I were a woman, at this stage of experience with dating I’d maybe have sex on like 12th date. How ironic! (I wouldn’t wait that long to have sex with a woman)
I likely would have went further, but due to my personal problems with stability – financial, drug abuse, emotional issues – this stuff stressed me too much, so I dropped it.
Being a mix of feminine and masculine (the latter I had to, and still have to work hard on) makes dating women way outside of what manosphere wants men and women to be: I don’t enjoy relationships where I’m not very attracted to someone, and my dating pool seems small as to who is attracted to me due to my character.
The good side of that coin is that the women that are attracted to me seem to be very attracted, and the relationships last long and well – even in long monogamous relationship, I never had a problem with not having enough sex, or that sex sucked, and sex was never used as a weapon (maybe I was lucky). I seem to have a decent relationship game built-in, provided I have the environment to do it (living solo or with friend).
The narrow dating pool experience seems to agree strongly with various ideas on relationships that people researching Jungian types create. According to one such person, my group (NF) is most often attracted to people within the (NF) group.
This has been my experience that SJ types seem to be invisible to my eyes. Those women even move differently. The topics they speak about turn me off. Their vibe feels ingenuine, unfun and off. Their music taste is mainstream. Their interests are gossip and manipulation. Their attitude towards work and passion uninspiring.
Uninspiring is how I would describe them altogether, although obviously this isn’t the case for all of those women.
Those must be the women majority of manosphere dates simply because maths – those are the most common types, therefore they will date most common male types, and those experiences will form the “red pill theory”…
…which has been vastly different from my experiences with women, which were in majority very positive. I only came upon manosphere because I wanted to be more confident, pickup women and know what the fuck I’m doing.